Tuesday, November 07, 2006

In case the (ir)rationality of sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) is bugging you... + Constructive vs. Existential math.

..In case you are dying to know whether sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) is rational or irrational, you can be rest assured
that it is irrational (actually transcendental  (*)). So a constructive proof for
our theorem is with p=sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) and q=sqrt(2)

see http://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10004.3-5.shtml

(which also points out a more general and easy to understand constructive proof. Consider
  e^{log_e q} for any transcendental number e and rational number q--which will be q. All you need to show is log_e(q) is irrational and you can show this easily (If log_e(q) = m/n with integers m and n without common factors, then
q = e^{m/n}. This would mean that e is the root of an algebraic equation x^m - q^n = 0. But the definition of trancendental number is that it cannot be the root of any algebraic equation!).

Rao

(*) By the way, transcendental => irrational but not vice versa. In particular, transcendentals are those irrational numbers that cannot be roots of any algebraic equation. Two famous examples of course are e and pi.  Notice that proving that a number e *is* transcendental involves showing that e^r for any rational number r cannot be rational (since if it is, then e will be the root of an algebraic equation). Thus, proving transcendentality is not all that easy.

(ps 2:

Check out

http://digitalphysics.org/Publications/Cal79/html/cmath.htm

for a nice discussion on the Constructive vs. Classical mathematics--and how during Hilbert's time there was a pretty big controversy in mathematics--with mathematicians such as Brouer insisted that all math that depended on existential proofs be thrown out.Papa Hilbert had to come to rescue--pretty heady stuff.

You might also look at

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mathematics-constructive/

which also talks about the "slick" irrational power irrational can be rational proof...

Fwd: Project 2 & Take home mid-term statistics




The following are the statistics of Project 2 (game playing) and take home mid-term.

P2

Without Extra Credits(45)

With Extra Credits(65)

 

Mean

Median

Highest

Mean

Median

Highest

Overall

38

40

45

41

42

63

Under

35

36.5

 

35.25

36.5

 

Graduate

40.2

42

 

45.3

45

 


Mid-term(Take-home)

Mean

Median

Highest

overall

59

61

82

Under

49.3

45

78

Graduate

66

71

82



Monday, November 06, 2006

Thursday, November 02, 2006

Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Readings list for the class updated--Chapter 9 is the reading for tomorrow and perhaps part of next class


Re: Converting multiply connected networks to singly connected ones

See page 510--and in particular Figure 14.11 in the textbook  which shows how
the multi-connected rain-sprinkler network is converted into a singly connected one  (basically you convert a multi-connected net to a singly-connected one by
merging some of the nodes into new supernodes--which take values that are in the cartesian product of the domains of the merged nodes)

rao


On 11/1/06, Kartik Talamadupula <tkartik@asu.edu> wrote:
Dr Rao,
 
Can you give me some pointers (for part IV) on how to convert multiply-connected networks into singly connected ones?
 
K
--
Kartik Talamadupula

this too shall pass ...
http://kraktik.blogspot.com

KABOOM and Core-meltdown (Re: late in the day question about Project Three)

By KABOOM, I meant "Core Meltdown" occurs. (So your interpretation "a")
(I just assumed that core-meltdown will be accompanied
with a big noise I didn't think that core meltdown will not be detectable to the outsiders as you seem to suggest.
You may well be right from a strict nuclear technology stand point--but I stand by my theory)

Rao

ps: Here is a
link to Chernobyl disaster which says that meltdown produced enough of a fall out cloud for people to realize
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_accident )



On 11/1/06, Al Welle < Al.Welle@asu.edu> wrote:
Dear Rao,
 
As I prefer to "save" any "get out of jail free" cards I'm given I'm trying to
finish Project Three tonight/tomorrow.
 
I have a couple questions about Task Part One Questions 3A and 3B.
 
First, are they, in fact, extra credit ?
 
Second, when you describe the "Kaboom during the holiday season" I
feel there is a little vagueness about the criteria for determining if a
"Kaboom" happens.
 
(that is, how would the residents of Springfield "prove" or "feel" that
a Kaboom happened)
 
Is it:
 
a) a CoreMeltdown occurs (is this nominally something those outside
the plant can detect)
 
b) either of Glow In-the Dark employees / Apu's Slurpee's Liquify are
detected (even though both of these conditions might occur even if a
Kaboom doesn't happen during the holiday season)
 
c) any of CM/GID/ASL occurs/is detected (even if no one glows and
the slushies are ok, someone rats Burn's out for the reward if CM
happens)
 
I was originally leaning toward b) but as I consider the problem in more
depth I think c) is actually the best definition of a Kaboom.
 
Thanks for any clarification you feel you can give,
 
Al